tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post4446918242796929777..comments2023-10-05T23:00:32.066-04:00Comments on Dreambound: Celestial Focus, or No?Kaehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16164718601021220108noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-1501023070922517352009-12-16T08:22:26.589-05:002009-12-16T08:22:26.589-05:00The point of NS + HT is not to cast them individua...The point of NS + HT is not to cast them individually. NS can be cast at the exact same time as HT and doesn't pop a GCD on its own. Macros are used to combine them together into one instant spellcast.<br /><br />Also, the nourish itself doesn't matter so much for speed past 1 second, as the GCD afterwards will still, always, be 1 second when at or past the level of haste to put it there. The GCD can never be less than 1 second, it caps out. So, even if Nourish itself will cast in less than 1 second, you will still have to pause and wait for the GCD to complete before casting again; this is the same clipping issue that glyphed HT ran up against.Kaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164718601021220108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-11755055500322136302009-12-16T01:39:48.912-05:002009-12-16T01:39:48.912-05:00I am able to keep my t9 4 set and have 765 haste. ...I am able to keep my t9 4 set and have 765 haste. No revitilise, no barkskin no living seed. I mana isnt an issue for me so i 1/5 tranquil spirit. Still have empowered touch. With bookin / ret pally and WoA totem down my nourish is a .996 cast Which is an excellent emergency heal if swiftmend is on CD. NS + HT can take too long, 1gcd for the NS then u can hit HT instead of just casting nourish and if NG procs u follow up with a .8 second cast nourish to easily make as much healing as as a HT would. Im all for CF till i get enough haste to drop it.Anteaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-88600703814722681542009-12-03T01:13:06.893-05:002009-12-03T01:13:06.893-05:00@Kae "...those that do will be sacrificing a ...@Kae "...those that do will be sacrificing a lot of their versatility."<br /><br />And that I think is the key to what a druid needs to do. If the only thing you care about is throughput then CF 3/3 may make sense. But I think that most (by no means all) trees care about more than that. <br /><br />I actually dislike this type of theory crafting. I think it puts the focus on the wrong thing. It creates an awe of big numbers that distracts from quality play. Frankly, I think it's just DPS envy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-7687145305405366412009-12-02T18:19:44.517-05:002009-12-02T18:19:44.517-05:00I am playing 18/0/53 for a few months now and I re...I am playing 18/0/53 for a few months now and I really don't miss any other deep restotalent neither the T9 set bonus...for me living seed or rejuvenation crits are heals, which I cannot exactly anticipate and that is why, I do not care about them. I prefer to cast a few heals a bit faster than to count on unpredictable effects^^, so perhaps I'm a bit a controll freak in this case.<br />The high focus on haste rating (currently 756)is really worth it; even Anub in 10-hardmode with just another pala for the mt-heal isn't a problem <br />(although the first times my guildmates couldn't imagine a tree to heal this, but someday a holypriest had a disconnect and I got to try my luck and we were succesfull^^)<br /><br />[sorry for my bad english, I just want to to take up the cudgels for celestial focus and now this simple comment has grown into a refresh of my language skills]tromhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Rexxar&n=Tromburinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-25634801863441119062009-12-02T17:50:24.718-05:002009-12-02T17:50:24.718-05:00I for one would not be getting CF. I see it as a ...I for one would not be getting CF. I see it as a last resort for the little bit of haste. I am at 18% and i do not know if this has changed, but you need 33% to get 1.0 GCD. ill prob just take points out of Tranquil Spirit, and with WoA i should be GtG. with Blizz raising the haste soft cap is prob because of the increase in haste on gear coming in ICC. So if any thing i and others would slowly take points out of it and distribute it elsewhere when we get gear.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811113548029847787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-49280818555731156012009-12-02T14:02:19.978-05:002009-12-02T14:02:19.978-05:00I'm at 260 haste rating atm, which isn't e...I'm at 260 haste rating atm, which isn't even the current 3.2 cap (about 1.09 seconds with gotem 4/5 and raid buffs). Yes, people will need to adjust their own internal "this is how long my GCD is" monitors, and that will probably be the biggest hoop to jump for us all, but it will only be by the nitpicky tenths of a second. I'm expecting a jump to a 1.17 second GCD from 1.09 if I don't add more haste gear (and I respec for 5/5 gotem)... less than a tenth of a second difference. Slightly noticeable, but I can adapt to it, and gear upgrades in ICC will help.<br /><br />I suppose as a 10-man raider I have a bit more fatalistic view on how achievable haste is without giving up "necessary" talents :) a) healing style, and b) overall lower iLevel gear accessible.Kaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164718601021220108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-61908664678205829442009-12-02T12:15:34.530-05:002009-12-02T12:15:34.530-05:00Honestly, I think with ICC coming out and the chan...Honestly, I think with ICC coming out and the changes to haste with patch 3.3 that it will be necessary for resto druids to take all three points in CF. There just isn't enough haste on our gear currently nor in the gear that MMO has shown us so far. Even with full raid buffs including a ret pally/moonkin/haste totem and points in CF, you need 735 haste rating. Frankly, even at my gear level I'm having difficulty getting enough static haste without having to gem spellpower/haste gems. Not to mention taking those 3 points in CF allows you to keep some of those nice pieces of gear with critical strike instead of downranking to a lower spellpower/higher haste piece. End result being you retain some of your critical strike and spellpower even if you break up your four-piece T9 so your direct heals still hit hard.<br /><br />In addition, I can guarantee that resto druids will notice it when their gcd isn't 1 second. You will find yourself having to spam buttons more often because your HoTs just aren't off the gcd yet. You might even miss big heals because you're having to wait. The biggest adjustment would just be for your personal rhythm. I know what my gcd is and I know that mine is definitely 1 sec and I plan my heals and button clicks around that. Not hitting the soft haste cap means you will affect your healing style, and not for the better. <br /><br />I'm also in the process of testing out a couple of different talents, mainly living seed and revitalize. Granted, I think those are fight-specific and healing-style specific talents. I'm trying to determine if either is worth putting points into. Maybe I'll put up a post about the results.<br /><br />FîrewoodFîrewoodhttp://www.treehaelz.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-63797187934425078892009-12-02T11:46:37.277-05:002009-12-02T11:46:37.277-05:00I'm not really a raider (just the little raids...I'm not really a raider (just the little raids, like Ony, VoA).<br /><br />I'll take your build but remove NG (when it procs, it drops almost everything below 1 second, which is not all that useful).<br /><br />I'll use those points to finish Living Seed and get Improved Tranquility (very nice for five mans, and sometimes useful in 10-man content).<br /><br />I might move a point from Subtlety to Tranquil Spirit (but either is really a filler, to get deeper in the tree).Erdlufnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-55851252989122610362009-12-02T10:42:48.549-05:002009-12-02T10:42:48.549-05:00*nod* I think restos' overall haste rating wil...*nod* I think restos' overall haste rating will see a boost when the changes to GotEM go live (as a 10% haste buff), but few druids in current gear will see the soft haste cap... those that do will be sacrificing a lot of their versatility.<br /><br />I don't think it's absolutely necessary to be sitting at exactly 1s GCD. It's a difficult position from a scaling perspective, and latency will always cause trouble... and getting to that cap requires giving up other stats like crit (which I like!).Kaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164718601021220108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-46413247930551143302009-12-02T10:40:25.505-05:002009-12-02T10:40:25.505-05:00I can get upwards of ~750 haste right now just swa...I can get upwards of ~750 haste right now just swapping around a few pieces of gear, but loosing my T9 set bonus...which I'm not entirely certain I want to do. I'm also not entirely certain that I want to drop 18 points into the balance tree either.<br /><br />Right now I'm 11/0/60, which means I would need to re-allocate 7 points from the resto tree. 5 of them are easy for me, as I rarely tank heal in our progression raids I can take 3 points from living seed without too much thought and 2 points from improved barkskin, because as you said...they were nice to have but also don't have a huge effect on my output. Which leaves me to find two more points, which would likely come out of empowered touch.<br /><br />I haven't 100% decided myself if I am going to go into Celestial focus. I'm wondering how much difference it will truly make if I continue to build on haste gear. I suspect that I'll explore it, maybe drop my moonkin spec for a bit to do a dual resto spec to compare. While I understand on paper it is supposed to give you the most bang for your buck...I can't help but wondering how it's going to work in practice.<br /><br />I guess what I'm trying to say in this big, long, ramble is that I have no idea what I want to do yet =(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-17179738289137302732009-12-02T10:17:20.062-05:002009-12-02T10:17:20.062-05:00Some people will benefit from CF in 3.3. Some peop...Some people will benefit from CF in 3.3. Some people won't. I also see some people planning on switching to CF temporarily and then going back to their no-CF builds.lissannahttp://restokin.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273077195457377371.post-7937978003522770142009-12-02T09:24:44.444-05:002009-12-02T09:24:44.444-05:00I am trying that build right now, Kae, because I&#...I am trying that build right now, Kae, because I'd lost so much haste in the mostly 232 level gear that my cast time was really slowed. I dont think I've seen a huge difference, either. My haste was down to 356, where I'd had it up around 400 before. Now after 3.3 actually hits, that may change, of course. <br /><br />I also caved in last night and spent the badges to get out of the Ony25 head and into the iLevel 245 badge helm with haste on it, and I am considering putting away my Moonshadow Armguards and going back to the Broodmother wrists, which also have haste on them. <br /><br />I rather doubt I'll ever hit the new soft cap, but I think there could be merit in Icedragon's idea that perhaps we arent intended to. I have seen druids with over 600 haste though.Kayerinoreply@blogger.com